using air control for landing

Question

when using fms for the flight and air control for start and landing sometimes it works wel but also air control let me fly far beyond the arrival airport. Does anyone has this problem too and how can i fly a complete flight with fms and air control?

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Thanks. It is realy going better now. Your help was good.

Answer 1

When you say for beyond, are we saying it's taking you greater then 75nm or is it around 20-40nm? It's normal, especially when flying a vectors-based approach for ATC to send you out 30nm away before bringing you back in. If you are on the opposite side of the airport from the active runway it can take you even further while directing you around the airport. In a commercial plane this doesn't matter as much since you are usually flying around 250kts but in a GA aircraft it can add 30-45 minutes to your flight.

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Thanks and i wil be more patient. Mostly it takes more than 50 nm and then i go to the airport myself,using the map

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Yeah, if you reach 75nm and it hasn't turned you, then you might be looking at a problem. I would check your flight plan that you filed to be sure it's in order (check distances as I've found some points can have the same ID in a different country). Also a good thing to do is be sure you add all the points in your procedure to the FMS when you come in. If you add the PROC points to your FMS based on your approach type, it might also help you determine what the ATC is doing. Even the built-in ATC won't forget about you so at some point it IS going to turn you. Trust the ATC. :-P

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Thanks again. I use a flight from a site(flightplandatabase.com). I fill in de airfields codes (getting from world-airport-codes.com) and then it makes a flightplan. I can download is as a fms file for xplane 11. Then i load it in the fms of the plane. Then i make the aircontrol flightplan with the same airfield codes.  I take off with aircontrol and when it says own navigation i turn on de fms(nvav).Then i wait till the aircontrol let me descent and gives me the way to the airfield. Mostly that takes a long time and somtimes i wait till 100 nm and then the patience is over.

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Do you have any plugins? I would disable them and see if you get the same result. Even plugins that seem to have nothing to do with ATC or traffic can effect the built-in ATC system.

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I have no plug-ins . So i fly to the AirPort and look for a runway with ILS in the map and land. Maybe not the best way but iT works.

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It would be odd, but not outside the realm of possible for the ATC to send you beyond 75nm away from the airport. My only other conclusion would be to check the approach charts and see what the normal ATC flow is for approaches for that airport or region. Perhaps there is something unique about that area? Otherwise, start at the destination airport and watch other AI traffic and see what the ATC does. It's possible that the ATC flow needs to be updated in WED or you need to update the navdata files. That's the only other thing I can think of.

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Thanks. As far as i can hear other aircrafts are having the right command of ATC. I will try further to look for a solution.

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anyway, how can i update ATC flows and navdata files. I bought xplane 11 about one month ago

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The aircraft wouldn't change the ATC commands. At least not enough for the type of events your experiencing. ATC flows are updated with WED and updated navdata files. You can download WED from the X-Plane web site. If you want to update the navdata files you'll have to subscribe to navigraph. Navdata is not provided by the FAA to normal civilians (only licensed pilots and military can get them from the FAA) but navigraph has been able to provide semi-updated navdata files by reconstructing them from open-source information available on the internet and elsewhere to provide a close as possible relication of the FAA navdata.

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Thanks. With your help it is going better anyway.

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Happy flying!