Decreased Frame Rate after 11.30 Update

Question

After updating to 11.30, I lost between 10-15 FPS. I attempted to adjust the graphics sliders to no avail which is incredibly weird. I have tried deleting shaders and preferences and that didn't help either. Is there any way to get a reversion to 11.26 or any solutions for frame rate issues? I have read that many users have had increased frames, but no matter how I mess with my sim, their suggestions are not helping. If I need to provide more information, please let me know.

PC - XPS 8910, i5-6400, 8 GB RAM, GTX 1070

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Same issue here. I just want to go back to 11.26. I looked under "older versions" but all that had was V.10, v.9, etc.....not incremental updates.

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I have been having the same issue as well. I have heard both that this is not an official release and from others that it is an official release. Like many others the update presented itself when I opened my xplane. I do not subscribe to any developer or beta options. I too am looking for a way to revert back to the last stable installed version but with no luck :(

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Agreed. If I could just go back one iteration, I would be completely fine. At this point it's borderline unusable. Thanks for commenting!

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I'm new to graphics and all of that so forgive my lack of articulate info.  I have an MSI B350, Ryzen 5, 16G Ram, and just moved from a GTX 1060 to 1080 Superclocked.   I've done literally nothing between cards in relation to X-Plane and display settings, and could not get above 30 frames, and would run typically in about 23FPS.  No performance tweaking worked.  I thought I could max everything out with the 1080, I've heard stories and watched youtube til I'm blue in the face.  Finally I changed my GeForce control panel to "Let the 3D app decide", and changed my X-Plane graphics to Visual Effects 3/4, Texture and Antialiasing full, World objects full, no Reflection, no shadows, no parked aircraft, no Vsync.  That's a solid 45FPS standard screen, and 30 in VR.  If I pull Visual Effects back, FPS increases each time.  I've been able to get 98FPS just from those settings outside of VR, but I love the 30FPS VR and 45 Standard setup.  Looks great.  By the way, if I set Visual Effects to full, my 1080 chokes.  It's goofy.  My other resources don't even break a sweat and my 1080 sets at about 45% utilization on these settings.

I hope that helps.

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Thanks for the suggestion! I messed around with those settings (although "let the 3D app decide was already checked) to no avail. My issue does not seem to be in relation to graphics as no matter how low or high I have all the sliders, I am stuck at the same low FPS. Prior to the update I was getting 40-60 FPS on medium/high settings.

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Same here, No matter the settings nothing changes. I was getting 40 -50 FPS on average until the 11.30 update.  I have a support ticket open with xplane but not really getting anywhere as of yet or new information as of yet. Out side of the "uninstall the plug-ins". As we have seen this does not seem a plug-in related issue. Everything was perfect until the update to 11.30, then something broke. Ill let you know once I hear something.

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Appreciate it, Silentraven! Still no progress on my end for anyone else following.

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Same here, I just sent a follow up email in order to see if there is any movement on the issue so we shall see. Hoping for a resolution reletivly soon.

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Hey TheAirPortManager, Sorry for the spam comments lol But, I just got an email from there support team and this has become something that is a major issue that they are agressivly looking into. I have compiled a list of the links from the Q&A pages for them to look through as well as many log files. So...we will see. At least they now know about it and are paying it attention.When I hear more Ill post it here :)

Cheers guys!

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Extremely thankful for your update, silentraven! Glad to know they care about the issue! Here's to hoping it all works out well in the end!

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Just updated to 11.31 and there is still no fix for this issue. My frame rate is still utter garbage. Obviously it was not an update to fix this, I understand, but I was hopeful for the little bug fix regarding Intel. Curious if anyone else's troubles were fixed or helped by the update?

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For sure I will continue to update and hopefully have a resolution to report lol.  I am scared to update anything now though. Thanks for the information .

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I just ran the Beta 11.30 from back when it was still a beta and it works beautifully.  Fast and smooth with the sliders 3/4 of the way up.  (I can put them all the way up but then I lose FPS but I expect that).

So the issue crept in between the beta release and the final release.  Hope they fix it soon

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Very interesting. I have been playing with the idea of uninstalling / reinstalling as support mentioned in there latest update to me that they are putting all of there attention into getting Vulken going. So, there are no fixes for this issue coming until the release of that. However they were 100% confodent that the release of Vulken will resolve this issue so here is hoping.

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Isn't Vulken quite a ways out still?

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Thats how it sounds. The email I recieved indicated that there are a couple of minor updates (11.30,11.32..etc) but nothing big that might resolve our issue. Until Vulken that is. When that update is release we should see not only a resolution but also major improvements. I just updated this afternoon to 11.32 and do not see any difference :( I work for a software company (avast antivirus) so have been playing with the idea of uninstalling / reinstalling as I have seen this fix random things here and there lol. If all else fails at least I can say I tried ya know. If I do Ill let you know here how it goes and if for me it fixed anything.

Answer 1

Hi THeAirportManager,

I am not with Laminar Research; just a flight simmer.

It appears to be a common problem with the current version of X-Plane that is still in the testing phase.  X-Plane 11.30 has not been officially released as yet.

To assist in trying to resolve your problem attach your log.txt file so that others with a greater knowledge base than me may be able to provide an answer.

How do you attach the file?  Follow the information supplied by me at https://questions.x-plane.com/22150/insert-the-file-button

Good luck

Glenn

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Hi Glenn, 

I do not believe that you are correct on that, but I could be wrong. When I went into the sim yesterday, it said the update was ready and other places are stating this is the official release. I cannot revert to 11.26 and I do not have beta selected.

 Log

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Hi,

I have read your attached log.txt file.  You could be correct as well.  Not knowing where you reside yesterday to me was Saturday and LRs website was viewed on Saturday and again today Sunday at 6-00pm.

The following link at  https://www.x-plane.com/kb/x-plane-11-30-release-notes/#Release_Candidate_3  indicates that it is still in release candidate v3 testing  ie still in testing phase having gone through private testing, Beta testing and public testing V1 and V2. 

Normally when a version is officially released for general public use I receive a private email from Laminar advising that an official release has been made.  In addition X-Plane.Org would be sending messages out advising of the new official release.  To date none of these messages have been received.

In addition either as a personal message from Thomson (Laminar Research) or a comment by him in the last week or so in this forum he indicated that the testing phase is still ongoing.

Finally if 11.30 was officially released Steam would be blowing their trumpet touting business to purchase the hybrid version from them.   

Unfortunately there is no going back and you like many others are having the same frame rate problem which needs to be fixed.

I  don't dabble in experimental versions.

Hopefully your dilemma will be fixed soon.

Cheers

Glenn 

Answer 2

I managed to get it somewhat better by switching to windowed mode (yuck) and dropping most of the settings way down.  Seems pretty drastic for something that isnt really that much more visually appealing.

I cannot understand why the frame rate took such a hit.

Even doing the above the frame rate is still to low but at least its flyable.

My 8 core CPU is chugging along at 65% and my video card seems to be handling it but the frame rate is still horrible compared to 11.26

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Same situation, huge difference in frame rate (top left 43 and bottom right 87) and in CPU temperature (bottom 82). 

I see only one image here the one from X-plane 11.32, see next comment for second image from X-plane 11.31r1

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This is from X-plane 11.31.r1 Compare frame rate (top left 62 and bottom right 120) and CPU temperature (bottom left 72) to image in previous comment.

And yes, the graphics settings are exactly the same ...

So, what is wrong with version 11.32 ?!